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The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018 is a proposed ballot initiative aimed at curbing wasteful spending of precious tax dollars through safe and sensible sentencing reform. For decades our state has needlessly wasted billions of taxpayer dollars by implementing irrational sentencing laws. Indeed, the cost of imprisoning each of California’s 130,000 inmates is expected to reach a record $75,560 in the next year, more than enough to cover the annual cost of attending Harvard University!* Failure to properly address the prison crisis has led to a decline in budgeting for education, public health care, social programs and other areas of concern.

At the forefront of this dilemma is California’s controversial “Three Strikes Law”, Enacted in 1994, the Three Strikes Law was touted as a mechanism for incapacitating violent repeat offenders such as child molesters, rapists, and murderers. However, certain provisions in the law have lead to many nonviolent offenders being sentenced to gratuitous “life sentences.” As a result, millions of precious tax dollars are being needlessly wasted annually to house nonviolent, low risk, and aging inmates.

This is magnified by the manner in which the penal code classifies certain crimes. In some cases, property crimes such as burglary and robbery do not involve any violence yet are classified as violent felonies. This act seeks to rectify this illogical practice by amending the penal code to make a distinction between violence and nonviolence. Under federal guidelines this very distinction exists; 18 USC 3559 (3)(H)(i), (ii). The amendments will serve to protect nonviolent offenders from suffering miscarriages of justice.

In November of 2016, California voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 57, which many believed would remedy prison overcrowding and save taxpayer’s dollars by offering a chance for early release to “all nonviolent” offenders. However, CDCR and state officials disregarded the will of California voters and arbitrarily excluded nonviolent third strikers notwithstanding Propositions 57’s clear mandate.

The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018 reinforces the will of the People by:

  • Saving hundreds of millions of tax dollars which will be reinvested in education to offset sky high college tuitions. Some of this money will also be allocated to lower education institutions with designs on better educating our youth.
  • Investing in rehabilitation, and youth crime prevention programs.
  • Requiring resentencing as second strikers for third strikers convicted of nonviolent crimes. This entails sentencing the defendant to double the time the crime normally carries, plus any additional sentence enhancements that were used in the original sentencing hearing.
  • Comporting with current resentencing regulations that promote public safety concerns by ensuring that child molesters, rapists, murderers, and other dangerous offenders remain behind bars.
  • Alleviating prison overcrowding, and federal intervention.

It’s time to stop playing on the public’s fears, and time to implement smart and safe strategies to combat the injustices we face today. Locking up nonviolent, low risk, offenders and throwing away the key is not conducive to liberty, justice, and the American way. Indeed, fair sentencing is a catapult for positive change in our justice system. By focusing on the expansion of educational opportunities, rehabilitation, and crime prevention programs, The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018 validates the old adage, “An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.” Perhaps by removing some of the causes we might end the effect.


*The press democrat: Monday, June 5, 2017, p.A5, by Don Thompson Associated press



    • Roberta, unfortunately, CDCR has watered it down causing many non-violent offenders to be left out. Even though enhancements wouldn’t be counted in the early parole process, the entire C file is taken into consideration during the review.

      • Roberta Sherry is correct, but not only do they look at the entire C file, but if you are a third striker with a nom violent crime for example felon in possession of a weapon with no other charges on that case they then go back to the court transcripts and use charges that you were brought up on that the jury can not convict on so they were dropped. In turn we also have men that have been in prison for 20 years that as a young man at 16 was young dumb at careless who decided gangs and fighting were a way of life. They picked up their two strikes by fighting with gang members and were charged with two.accounts of assault with a deadly weapon in turn at 22 got their final strike for felon in possession of a weapon. Parole board does not take into accpuntbthey were young they also do not take in to account that if you look at society today most in that situation just shot the gun to kill yet although the young man in the case was wrong you can also see that his intentions were not to kill the individuals but to hurt or defend himself from them because in stead of foreign the gun he used it as a weapon. In the state of California there are certain crimes that those of us feel are violent yet still remain on the serious crimes list. The parole board is a lot more biased when in comes to third strikers and Cdcr will twist and turn things to for their own agenda if the garbage in the bills, propositions, and acts is not directly precise. They get away with that because they state that since the garbage was not direct or precise they are then untitled to use it in their discretion. There are rapist, and murders in prison at this time that have a determanat sentences and with good time earned they will be out sooner then a felon in possession of a weapon with an indetermanet sentence

  1. Roberta peppler once the governor gave CDCR the lead on deciding how and who to process for the prop.57 it seems as if “ALOT” of what was supposed to be is not happening….. That’s why we the people org. has created “THE PEOPLE’S FAIR SENTENCING AND PUBLIC SAFETY ACT OF 2018.

    • Under The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act. Enhancements will be allowed, but the life sentence, and parole board hearings will be eliminated which will effectively grant instant relief to vast majority of nonviolent third strikers who qualify under this act.

    • Right now the organization is forming a “initiative committee” that will serve as the think tank as far as the direction the initiative, as well as the planning of the initative and the direction taken…as well as any plans of raising funds or popularity….

    • With champions like you Gabriela!!!! That’s how we’re going to get it out there. You were a champion with Prop 57. We’re bringing it to “The People” so stayed tuned because we need our heroes!

    • Changing the laws requires a step by step process. In other words we must take one bite of the apple at a time. Prop 57 removes all enhancements​ from non violent offenders with “determinate sentences,” The passage of this act will allow nonviolent former 3rd strikers to qualify for the removal of their enhancements, consecutive sentences​, etc, under the provisions of Prop 57 as they will no longer have indeterminate sentences.

      • How will this new initiative help someone with a prior with 10-15 years between each violent crime second one shooting in a dwelling and nobody got hurt? We they remove enhancements because of a prior? Well this still be considered a violent crime?

        • It won’t necessarily change anything for someone under those circumstances. However, the committee is working on possibly adding an enhancements pkg. to the initiative.

          • Devohn, simply put, this initiative will require that in order to receive an indeterminate sentence your 3rd strike must be a truly violent offense. The initiative committee may add more to it in the future. This will help at least a couple thousand people. What are you suggesting?

          • I guess it all depends what is being considered non violent? An assault with a deadly weapon but no injuries second offense. This is what I’m interested in.

          • Will this help someone who was sentenced under the 3strikes, juvenile strike at that and is considered violent offender?

    • We the people org, is working hard to get this initiative on the ballot. Check this site for updates or call the toll free number to see how you can contribute to making this initiative a success Valerie.

  2. Now we need this to pass more than ever. Because cdcr just released the permanent regulations this morning and they made no changes 😡.

  3. Gabby, wethepeople are currently making arrangements to launch our social media, and fundraising campaigns. We’re gonna need signature gatherers in order to get this initiative on the ballot.

  4. What’s going on. I tried to called to see what it’s going on if we don’t have any new news on this we can’t help or do anything, we need to be inform.

    • Right now we are in the process of negotiating with the ground level campaign people and assembling the committee that will be commissioned to move this is initiative forward, it will take a couple of weeks to get everything in place, and we definitely welcome any ideas or assistance from the people so if you have any input or ideas about something to assist in moving this initiative forward please contact us at 888)245-9393, we will always listen to the people.

    • Will this take away the authority that the pbh has my kids dad was approved under prop 57 but the parole board hearing denied his early release due to pass cases which is not fair because he was approved for prop 57

      • Neither the PBH or CDCR will have any say so whatsoever under this measure. Once it passes, all those who qualify will be resentenced by the Courts.

  5. I think we need to get on the ballot for the state of California to allow inmates to go up for parole after serving 1/3 of their sentence like the other states ! It doesn’t mean they will get approved but allow our loved ones to show that they have changed and made a small mistake ! The only people that get to go up for parole is ppl with indeterminate sentence like 15 years to life .. they go up after 15yrs , but some one who was charged for instance burglary who got 8+7+8+4=27 yrs (determinate) never goes up for parole 🤔🤔🤔 how does that even make sense ?? that person that received 27yrs may be a changed person after serving 9 yrs they should get a chance to show that , also we need to fight for a credit change , do you know that if a person has 20 yrs and only been in jail 5yrs , the credits they are receiving is falling off the back not the front , meaning if they qualify for SB261 and they have 5 yrs credit and was charged 20 yrs for burglary, and they get 2 years credit for school they don’t have 7 yrs going into 20 yrs pushing them closer to the 15 yr mark so they can go up for parole , instead the credits fall off the back so they have 5 yrs going into now 18 which means they still have to do 10 yrs to get to 15 yrs to go up for parole under sb261 instead of with the credits they have to do 8yrs to go up for parole , they system is playing our loved ones and it’s time we get this on track !!!! Also people who remove themselves from a gang and have to get protective custody for trying to better their life needs equal opportunity to work their time off with (fire camp) which is not available to them , in which it is unfair also , can we get this in there too ?

  6. Are you guys looking into where the big money 💰 is going to come from because without money we can’t move forward with this.

  7. California teachers association, the Democratic Party association.the Facebook guy. Try to contact this organizations.

    • Thanks, wethepeople intend on soliciting aid from any organization who wants to lend support. Wethepeople welcomes you to reach out for assistance as well. The biggest challenge is gathering the signatures​. But I have faith that we will make this happen.

  8. I too would be interested in helping you out. But also at the beginning of the month I submitted my initiative to the AG and it’s up for commenting and in the Analysts office. Not sure how but maybe we can collaborate or help each other out. Let me know.

    • Amy how are you doing? My name is Mitchell McDowell, treasurere of We The People org. Please call our toll free number 888)245-9393 and ask them to put you through to me, if I’m unavailable leave me your contact number, and I will contact you.

      • Elizabeth, I totally agree with your loved ones requests. I will speak with Mr. McDowell, as well as Mr. Loversky about removing that particular exclusionary clause. On another note, let your loved one know that our think tank may be more diverse than he thinks :-). We also thank him for his support!

        • My loved one is on the Inmate Advisory Committee at his facility. He wants to know what can he do specifically with the inmates on his yard to help? Is there a shorter version of the initiative or flyers that he can post? Thanks!

    • Amy, is this your initiative? Makes Individuals Who Committed a Second Strike Offense Before Age 23 Eligible for an Earlier Parole Hearing. Initiative Statute

      • The initiative that Brown sighed recently made it possible for offenders that got three strikes prior to age 26 will revive a youth offender parole hearing once they served the 25 years if they so not have a regular parole hearing set prior to that date. The way Cdcr is getting around those offenders receiving that youth offender gearing because some offenders are more likely to be released by the youth offender board Cdcr is not ensuring that the three strike offenders receive their regular parole hearing prior to their 25 years in turn making them no longer eligible for youth offender parole hearing and most of them will not be released at the normal parole hearing. In essence the initiative again gave to much discretion up to Cdcr and they found away around it to keep our loved ones longer

    • No, because more will still need to be done and We the People is going to keep moving. For instance, as of now we do not know if 3 strikers will be included in the Early Parole Release process. By law of the voters “All non-violent offenders” as described in the initiative should be included. CDCR, California Dept of Corrections of Rehabilitation is doing there best to keep 3 X’s out of the regulations being created for prop 57 violating voters rights in my opinion. Let us say they say ok we will allow 3 strikers to be included in the Early Parole Release process….great news if this happens. But this is a chance for early parole release not a promise that it will happen a board will still need to decide.
      This still will not assure the release. I believe incarcerated individuals should have to show the courts progress and hard works. Different people will be on these boards at each prison. Some might be more understanding than others. This is still not a perfect setting but Prop 57 is all we have right now. We the People will be expanding on prop 36 the Three Striker law passed in 2012. There is always room for improvement and this is where We the People comes in to represent us voters who want real change and without the over seers like CDCR who opposed prop 57 from the start. I would like to see three strikes thrown out of law all together. We had laws in place to deal with murders and rapist long before California 3 strikes law passed. I believe CA 3 strikes has lead to mass incarceration allowing the jailer to lock anyone up for long periods of time regardless of the crime. Who’s child or spouse will be next. We should all be trying to end this law. California can not afford mass incarceration, just look at our roads and schools. We need our tax dollars to repair our cities, prevent natural disaster, and house our homeless. Tear down the cages and start reforming to prevent recidivism. May your voice heard and donate today help pay for the gathering of voter signatures to put this on the ballot. Probably won’t be until March 2018 or somewhere in that time frame until we start gathering the signatures. We have to follow the Voter Registration Guidelines.

  9. No, because this initiative offers true relief to all nonviolent 3rd strikers who qualify. Prop 57, is very narrow and limited even if they include 3rd strikers. This initiative is far more inclusive and there won’t be any controversy when it passes.

  10. A lot of the problems with rehabilitation in prisons is space to hold rehabilitation programs and CDCR’s control of the space. Will the initiative address the limitation of the state facilities and the control issues?

    • Embedded in the initiative itself is a directive specifically for reinvesting monies saved by the passage of this act towards prisoner rehabilitation programs. So there’s a strong likelihood that your concerns will be addressed by this Act.

    • Gabby, Mitch personally thanks you for your generous donation. Together we’re gonna make The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018 a reality!!

  11. Hi. My brother is doing LWOP he went in at 18 he has been in for 24 years.He has changed si much dor the good he liked even called a Model prisoner by the warend .He donatea to the pbs stiaion out his own money every mounth.We thoughte since hes been good for so long we could get a. Over. Nighte famiky vitte with him but they said no thats why this law need ro be changed back to tje way we voted it in .He has done evwry they have asked puls more.He is turly reformed.

    • He should be allowed to have family visits lwop was included that started in February. Was his crime against a minor, or he have any domestic violence history or drug offenses while incarcerated? All that can prevent family visits.

      • No none of those.When he was a minor in 1989 somthing happend he did some class over when he was 14 would that be the reason .

      • No but he was a minor he was charged with a sex crime it was only a misdemeanor he wad 12 when happened the victim was younger them him.he only had to do class that’s it .would that stop the family visits ?

    • Lacy, Good things happen. Keep praying and believing because thousand of us family members are fighting for change and this is why we are going to make this work. We are a strong force and inmates have loved ones, friends, neighbors and families who refuse to turn there back and let this injustice continue. “Let the Time Fit the Crime” Fair and equal sentencing practice should be the only verdict in the USA! We will win

    • No it did not get cancelled Gabby. As you can see it’s back up and available for downloading. Wethepeople intend on making this initiative law!

    • Ralinda during the course of moving this initiative to the ballot there may be something added in to include as many people as possible, without undermining public safety… reference to adding something about the court sentencing a person to multiple strikes from the same act,the courts just passed a ruling down saying they can no longer do that, and it is retro active,
      it was recently passed down, all you have to do is google the California supreme court ruling on multiple strike convictions from the same act….
      I think the case is named Vargas .

      • In regards to receiving multiple strikes for the same act. My husband was 16 when he received his first two strikes. There were two victims. The public defender who in my opinion being I study law was not competent as no public defender would suggest a minor to take a plea bargain of two strikes on two accounts of assault with a deadly weapon. My question is the case the supreme court upheld would that make this eligible or would it not be eligible because there are two victims for the same crime there for receiving the two exact strikes per victim? By the way my husband was arrested at 22 and convicted on his 3 strike of felon in possession of a weapon. He was also convicted on felon in possession of a loaded weapon while in a gang. That convection was stayed at the time he was charged. In my eyes the third strike is not a violent crime as no one was hurt and there is no way to prove his intentions were to hurt anyone. He has been told not only by Cdcr that he does not qualify for prop 57 but also the supreme court said he was not eligible when he appealed it. My other concern is that now if you look at violent crimes it does not show assault with a deadly weapon yet that’s what his two strikes were that he got as a minor so how can they stood hold him to those two strikes? My husband is now 41 he has been incarcerated pretty much since he was 16 minus 6 months to a year that he was out between his first two strikes and his final strike. He is not the same person he was he has no affiliation with gangs any longer he programs works is enrolled in the long term offender program as well as a vocational yet he was told by the parole govner that he would more than likely not be granted page at his hearing in 2020. These things are those back wards they do not give 3 strikers a chance nor do they motivated them to change by denying them their freedom at all costs

    • Key word is from one crime. Multiple strikes can be handed out still for separate offense during one trial. Google, People vs Vargas in 2014 ruling. Your loved one probably needs to file a habeas writ or try calling the public defenders office where he was charged. If he had a public defender you might be able to ask for their counsel again. It is worth a try and only requires time
      Here is an article from our friends at San Quentin that will help you to understand. Short and to the point
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      Home / Featured/California Supreme Court Rules Multiple Strikes on One Act Unconstitutional
      California Supreme Court Rules Multiple Strikes on One Act Unconstitutional
      September 29, 2014 by Juan Haines

      By Juan Haines

      California’s Supreme Court ruled a portion of the Three Strikes Law unconstitutional. It ruled that there are limits on awarding multiple strikes arising out of a single criminal act.

      The facts of the case are as follows:

      Darlene Vargas and Oscar Velasquez committed a home invasion robbery against Lynn Burrows and William Alves. Later that night, Vargas and Velasquez were caught prowling near another home in the same neighborhood. A witness later identified Velasquez and Vargas as the man and woman who were walking near the victims’ home. They were in possession of burglary tools and items taken from the Burrows/Alves home.

      Vargas was charged and convicted of burglary, grand theft and conspiracy to commit grand theft.

      At sentencing, the court ruled that a 1999 carjacking and robbery counted as two strikes against her, even though they happened during a single criminal act.

      The court on July 10 ruled that when the Three Strikes Law passed in 1994, voters understood that a person would have three chances before the harshest penalty could be imposed and that no one can receive two strikes on one act.

      The court clarified multiple strikes out of a single prior conviction. In the 1998 case People v. Benson, the court ruled that a person who commits additional violence in the course of a serious felony, e.g., shooting or pistol-whipping a victim during a robbery or assaulting a victim during a burglary, should be given multiple strikes as opposed to an individual who committed the same initial felony but did not commit additional violence.

      “But where, as here, an offender committed but a single act, we disagree she poses a greater risk to society merely because the Legislature has chosen to criminalize the act in different ways. The Legislature is free to criminalize an act in multiple ways, but that it has done so does not of itself make an offender more blameworthy, or more dangerous, within the meaning of the Three Strikes law,” the court ruled.

      The court found that since Vargas’ priors were multiple criminal convictions stemming from the same set of facts during the commission of a single act, they count as one strike.

    • Yes, it will help any person convicted of a robbery where it was not charged and proved that the robbery involved great bodily injury, or did not involve the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon.

    • I believe so. But you will have to look at his penal code number and see what is charge is classified as…non-violent serious or violent list. Hopefully his charge is classified as a non-violent offense.

  12. what makes me angry is the statues in place for violent offenders. Now I’m not talking about murders and rapest. We need to deal with the enhancements across the board for violent and non violent offenders. This created excess amount of time given to the offender and more money spent. We already know this doesn’t fix the problem

  13. My husband’s a nonviolent third striker, he was sentenced in 1997 to 27 to life for possession of a firearm will he qualify under this initiative?? Thank you

    • Indeed! The initiative has provisions to ensure that offenders merely in possession of a firearm will qualify for relief under The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018.

        • This initiative remains open for adding a pkg. that will include those convicted of offenses classified as violent. Unfortunately, current trends favor sentencing reforms for nonviolent​ offenders. At any rate, that doesn’t mean we have totally dismissed the possibility of amending the initiative to include some type of relief for those convicted of violent offenses.

    • Rosa, we made sure that mere possession of a firearm will qualify under this act. Unfortunately, use of a firearm during the commission of a felony doesn’t. So the answer to your question is YES! Your husband will qualify 🙂

  14. I’m new to all this stuff so I’m a little confused on how this works. Is this something we are going to be able to vote for in 2018. Or is this something that’s trying to be put together still as in not official? I’m lost.

    • We are working on it Gabby! Our dedicated staff will succeed in making The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act of 2018 a reality. In the meantime all donations are welcomed.

    • I said we Money is a problem and we are working to make this happen. We will fight no matter how long this takes.
      We will not give up. I am just a mom and believe in the power of hard work and group effort. I pray we find many knights in shining armor to conquer and remove all boundaries, leading us as a strong force to victory in 2018. Help us to search far and near to find all who want to join. You can do this by posting the link to We the People online where ever you can, twitter, Facebook. Ask everyone you know to post to their accounts too. Spread the work like a wild fire!

    • That’s my question as well… My Three Striker is considered a “violent” offender because his crime was robbery. Even thought there was no actual violence inflicted on anyone; he did not use a weapon of any kind, and did not physically harm anyone. It seems that the wording of this initiative indicates that this type of crime may potentially be reclassified as non violent… Please correct me if I’ve misinterpreted this. I certainly hope this act can get onto a ballot and be voted in. I have hopes….

      • Amy, your reading of the initiative is correct. Any robbery, or burglary​that did not involve the use of a weapon or resulted in physical injury to the victim will qualify for relief under this proposal.

        • Thank you, that’s what I was hoping to hear!! I’m doing all I can to spread the word on the initiative, and will continue to do so. Thanks so much for all your organization is doing!

          • Your welcome Amy! We appreciate you spreading the word. Keep in mind that financial donations are essential at this point. Thanks again Amy!!

          • I’ve made a $50 donation; wish it could be more, but I’m unemployed at the moment. ☹️ I’ve also challenged everyone I know with a three striker to do the same!!

          • We appreciate your support Amy! It’s because of people like you that the initiative will be a success. This is the most significant 3 strike reform initiative yet so I’m hoping all those people you challenged will step up.

    • Angie, at present the initiative remains the same, we hope to add something for violent offenders before the deadline for amending the petition expires.

        • Unfortunately, the three strikes law permits the state to use juvenile priors as strikes I can only suggest that someone attack that illogical practice in the courts, through the legislature, or even squeeze it into a popular juvenile voter initiative.

        • The enhancements. My husband was sentenced under the 3strikes law but has a juvenile strike which is preventing him from qualifying for SB260 because of two enhancements in which he already did his time but these are holding him back.

          • Angie, third strikers are being excluded from all the new laws passed by the state legislature. My brother is also a political prisoner as a result of enhancements stemming from convictions in which he already served time for. We hope to eventually neutralize the use of enhancements period. Public outcry tends to favor this and wethepeopleorg will do anything in it’s power to make a positive change.

  15. There is a petition to help reduce Jeremy Stewart, (my son) but the signatures have already been collected and sent off to Governor Brown. Three Striker the documentary shares Jeremy’s story educating the world to this tragedy taking place in California. Jeremy received 70 years. Proposition 57 known as The Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act decreased to 58 years.
    Sorry, but 58 years is still a “Death Term Sentence for Jeremy”. Jeremy’s daughter will be 58 when he comes home unless this law changes or a miracle happen. There are still a lot of 3 strikers in the same situation as my son. Locked em up and throw away the key mentality while the jailer collects money. Help end these excessive sentences for Non-violent offenders created under California’s Three Strikes law. This documentary is an educational tool to tell the world what is happening in California. Harsh life sentences should be reserved for heinous crimes. Shame on California for building more prisons than colleges. Shame on California be allowing non violent offenders to be included in the three strikes law. Shame on California for punishing, the whole family by removing a loved one for decades from their families. Cost to lock up one inmate in prison for one year is $75,300 for a healthy inmate. This cost keeps going up every year. This is a waste of our tax dollars. $75,000 will pay for 7 students to go to college for a year. Education is the hope for out future.
    Today, I use the documentary, Three Striker to show the world why we need “We the People”. Let us stand together to end extreme sentencing practices for property theft. Please join our group, volunteer, make a donation today and share on your Facebook, twitter and emails so others will learn about this new group working to undo the mass incarceration and end recidivism through education and training.

    • Wethepeopleorg is in the process of forming coalitions with other like minded organization in our effort to get the initiative passed. Things are coming along nicely at this point 😉

      • From my loved one:
        –I’m sure that most of this is known. Check Ballotpedia donors for Prop. 36, 47 & 57.
        –Julie Piccolotti : Choose 1 from 2015
        –Robert Parker, Director of the Presley Center for Crime and Justice Studies at UC Riverside
        –Expert witness James Austin from Brennan Center for Justice for 3-Judge Panel
        –Please take notice of the mindset of the CDCR, politically and “personally” at:
        California Regulatory Notice Register 2017, volume number 28-Z
        Pg. 1039 “The dept. (CDCR) defines what the definition of non-violent is.”
        Pg. 1041 “No retroactive credits because CDCR would have to do more work.”
        Pg. 1041 “No retroactive credits because it would disadvantage those who chose to do nothing with their lives while in prison.”
        Pg. 1043 “Not worth it to rehabilitate inmates because parole grants would result in dept. job loss.”

        • Dear Elizabeth, wethepeople have taken into serious account your request to eliminate H&S codes 11370.4 and 11379.81 before officially filing the initiative tomorrow. I strongly urge that you contact Mr. Mitchell McDowell at (888) 245-9393 as soon as you possibly can. We may want you to tell your story at the press conference being held in Sacramento. Thanks for the list of potential supporters you sent us.

  16. On page 5 in Section 4 of the Initiative, 667(e)(2)(c)(i) 11370.4 (drug possession) and 11379.8 (drug manufacturing) are still alive as an exclusion to any changes. This section of the penal code applies to exactly FIVE people incarcerated in CA, as was the case back in 2012 with Prop 36, 11370.4 affecting four people and 11379.8 affecting ONE person having now served 22 years with no violent, weapon or sexual charges, but who is a third striker. Why exclude these five? What is it about these offenders that make them continuallty left out? The single man affected has two prior serious felonies, but the third was not serious or violent. Why give ONE drug addict a life sentence and then specifically exclude him from any possibilities of relief from propositions? Now AB 1448 is on Governor Brown’s desk which will exclude 3 strikers from elderly parole consideration, thus making yet another means of excluding him. This is a case that should be looked at more closely in drafting initiatives or legislation.

    • Elizabeth, thanks for your logical observation. We agree that drug cases in general are nonviolent. Let me do some research before I give you an answer. I will say this though, 25 gallons of meth oil might fall into the unreasonable threat to public safety category. I’ll get back to you later. Thanks again for your great observation.

      • Yes, on a molecular level there were considered to be 25 gallons of meth oil, although it was waste product found in a 55 gallon drum containing used motor oil, transmission fluid and the like. It was not usable as a drug.

        • In CA, it’s the quantitiy of the drug, not the quality… 1/4 ounce of meth put in 100 gallons of water to destroy it would be 100 gallons of meth. Why change the law, as was done in this instance in Prop 36, for just one man? This could be undone in this initiative…

          • Yes, the only person convicted of this in the entire state. Again, it was meth only at a molecular level.

          • We will take a close look at that prior to the amendment deadline. Once again, fundraising is top priority right now. I certainly appreciate your insight Elizabeth.

  17. I agree that it could be done in this initiative. Indeed, I will consult with wethepeopleorg about this. In the meantime we are passionately seeking donations to get the initiative moved along. Any donations will be welcomed. I’ll get back to you soon.

  18. Yes.i’d like to know.who and what organizations is behind this initiative?.my friend is a non violent 3rd been to the board was denied 5 yrs.and hes done it all.he was convicted of conspiracy to will this help him.And how do i make a donation to help?

    • William, wethepeopleorg is in the process of joining CURB which represents a coalition of organizations united to fight mass incarceration and fight for a responsible budget. You can donate either directly on this website or by logging in to Go Fund Me and entering wethepeopleorg. Thanks for your support. It will help your loved one by doing away with his life sentence and setting him up for Immediate release.

    • Yes Devohn, we are currently discussing possible additions to the initiative with other organizations. Keep in mind however, that there will be fierce opposition to the initiative in it’s current state. The more we add, the more stronger the opposition will be. Many suggestions are being raised, but sometimes it’s best to eat the apple one bite at a time. We will keep our supporters posted on any new developments. Thanks for your support!

      • I’m sorry but we all know the overcrowding is because of the excessive amount of time given to the inmates. Why should we keep tip toeing around the serious issues. We need some major relief.

        • I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, major relief requires more support than you might imagine. You also must take into account of those who oppose reform and will do all in their power to thwart change. The political aspect is perhaps deeper than you realize Devohn!

  19. From my loved one:
    Mitchell McDowell, Thomas Loversky, Twizard, et al:
    Hello, my name is Aaron. I am 55 years old and have been in prison 22 years now under 3-strikes.
    In 1987 I had (1) burglary and (1) attempted burglary of non-occupied dwelling. Those were my “serious” but non-violent 2 prior strikes.
    In 1995 I manufactured methamphetamine for which I received “25 to life”.
    Attached to that sentence was a consecutive 10-year enhancement for “weight”. I put 5 gallons of waste by-product in a 55-gallon drum half full of old motor oil and transmission fluid in an attempt to hide it. I did not know CA law classifies it “all”.
    Both the manufacturing 11379.6 and the “weight” enhancement 11379.8 are non-violent/non-serious and are not part of any “unreasonable threat” criteria.
    I notice that your initiative is built upon the bone of Prop. 36, and also leaves intact 667(e)(2)(c)(i) H&S 11370.4 and H&S 11379.8 as “exclusionary” to your bill.
    I understand that mike Romano included these 2 non-violent drug weight enhancements in Prop. 36 as a “war on drugs” issue, but had he done the research he would have discovered a very few people have anything like that attached to their 3rd-strike, which is the “exclusion” factor, it has to be attached to the 3rd-strike.
    11370.4 is “weight” possession and 11379.8 is “weight” from manufacturing. In the entire 24 years of the 3x law on ly 4 people have had 11370.4 as part of a 3rd strike and only 1 person has had 11379.8 (myself) as a part of 3rd strike.
    MANY people have these, but not part of a third strike.
    I see that you are forming an “initiative committee” as a think tank. I wonder how many of those are inmates?
    Inmates often have information not clear to people out there.
    If you wish to check “statistics” having to do with inmate population, how many people what crime, etc., it is done through the “offender information services branch” (OISB) of the CDCR information services request form. Anyone can do this.
    I have no violent strikes, my 3rd strike is non-serious. I have no sex offenses or weapons charges.
    I hope you “remove” 667(e)(2)(c)(i) from your initiative. I have no family left alive to advocate for me and certainly no 50,000 followers on any petition or FB. I have endured and persevered 22 years under this draconian law. I support your effort and will have the group of non-violent 3rd strikers I represent on this yard do the same. I have posted your initiative in all the buildings.
    People v. Aaron Claude Yost Fourth Appellate District Division Two Case #E061731 2/9/2015

  20. What about someone who was charged as a offender because he was there but didn’t. Know that it was taking place, I got his transcripts she said that he was not part of any of what took place with her this happened when he was 18 19 years old, and now he got his 3rd strike in 2013 an has to serve 31 years to life will this act help him?

      • Hi sorry it took long to get back to you, getting in two it with his wife, he said he had to spent 11 years for the other case, they’re sentence him to be released in2031 they’re put all his strikes on this one last case released date2031 parole date 2027 sorry kind of new to this all

        • So Lorretta, are you trying to determine if our initiative will affect your people? If the crime that he’s currently convicted of is in fact classified as nonviolent he qualifies. Feel free to contact us at our toll free number for more info.

  21. Hello,
    I am new to this forum and would like to first say Thank you to all who put this together. I know it take passion, time and dedication.
    My husband called me today to look up information on this new iniative. He is serving a sentence of 35 to life. He should now be considered a non-violent felon under the new changes, however it seems like it’s not affecting him as much as first thought. His first strike was entering my exes apartment and taking his wallet and using his credit card (things could have been worse since he thought we were having an affair) since then my own ex has written to the judge that he feels no ill will against him. His second strike was using deadly weapon while resisting arrest on a police officer. The deadly weapon was the officer’s handcuffs. The third strike was a burglary, however nothing was taken and no one was hurt. He kicked the door open and didn’t pass the threshold. While incarcerated- He has not be written up for over 5 years. He is in every class he can take and they will put him in. He has been doing everything he needs to, so that he can prove he is remorseful and has understood his wrong doings. He did get time taken off his sentence, which makes him eligible for parole in 2035. He is working on getting one of his strikes striken that is now considered a lower offense in hopes that if this prop 57 or new initiative doesn’t bring him home.
    This all leaves me angry and confused. How is it that someone can committ a rape for the first time or first time caught and get a lesser sentence than my husband, who has not caused harm to anyone!?
    Will this iniative help my husband in any way?
    How can I get alerts on updates on this matter?
    Thank you.

    • Hello Mrs. Lucas and welcome aboard. This initiative is designed to help people such as your husband. His current offense which you say is a burglary would make him eligible under this act. I strongly urge that you download a copy of our initiative from this website and send him a copy. I also urge that you contact Mitch McDowell or Victoria Johnson and our toll free number as soon as possible. We are seeking volunteers to help ensure that this initiative makes the November 2018 ballot and passes. Thanks again for your support.

  22. Per my conversation with Mitchell I’m going to enumerate some deficiencies with the initiative, which are also deficiencies in prop 36.

    1. The issue of ex post facto. Crimes before 1994 when the three-strike law was enacted, those crimes should not count as strikes for the purpose of sentencing. So during re -sentencing the judge should be mandated to exclude any crimes that were used as strikes that were committed before 1994.

    2. Defendants should receive only one strike per case regardless of how many different crimes were Consolidated into that one case that one crime. In other words for each separately and brought and tried case there should be only one strike applied. If the state chose to consolidate multiple cases in one brought and tried case case that’s on the state doing that that’s their problem. If they wanted to assign a separate strike for every case then they need to try them separately. If they brought and tried them together Consolidated them then that’s one strike for that case. So we need a provision saying that.

    3. Prop 36 has two exclusionary list, and your initiative has the exact same language the exact same 2 exclusionary list. 1 exclusionary list says that certain non-violent non-serious three-strike crimes will not qualify for re-sentencing. That is wrong. there should be no exceptions. All non-violent non serious three-strike cases crimes should qualify for automatically sentencing. There should be no exceptions, no exclusions no exclusionary list.

    The second exclusionary list in prop 36 and also in this initiative is a priors exclusion. In other words there’s a list of crimes and if your crime is on this list if you have a prior or priors that is on this list even if the priors are before 1994 and your current crime is non-violent non-serious you would not qualify for resentencing. That is wrong and that needs to be changed. There should not be an exclusionary this based on priors and there should not be an exclusionary list based on the current crime for which a person is struck out. If your current crime is non-violent and non-serious you should automatically qualify for re sentencing. Your priors should not matter.

    Let me give you an example of a case that I have read and I know it person exists in prison with this. This guy is struck out for single count of failure to register. His strikes are from the case that triggered the requirement to register. The case occurred when he was a teenager on a double date with his girlfriend and another couple. It was not serious. A lot of teenage manipulation. That case occurred a decade before three-strike law was even enacted. So that occurred when he was a teenager more than a decade before the three-strike law even existed many decades later he was struck out for single count of failure to register. Does that make sense? Are we really going to exclude a guy with a frivolous charge and punish him again or continue to punish him again or allow the state to continue to punish him again for a crime that occurred when he was a teenager which occurred before the three-strike law even existed?

    Even the 9th circuit federal court said that failure to register is a felony in name only, that it’s really a misdemeanor upgraded as a wobbler to a felony just to be able to strike out a person. That the crime is not a real crime it is not reoffending, that it is the most Petty felony in California. And in the United States there are only two or three states that even allow failure to register to be a wobbler or upgraded to a felony.

    4. Your initiative says that non-violent non-system Strikers will receive 20% credits. With the authority given to CDC by prop 57, CDC has elected to give 33% credits. So your initiative undermines even the 33%. Now , nonviolent non-serious offenders who do not have three strikes are receiving 50% credits so why should it be any different for non-violent not serious three Strikers? At the minimum your initiative should say 33% but 50% would be more in line. Now another problem with CDC is that the 33% that they are giving is not retroactive. So your initiative should give 33% or 50% and that the credits be applied retroactively.

    5. So let me summarize.

    Crime before 1994 should not count as strikes.

    Only one strike per case that is separately brought and tried.

    There should be no exclusionary list. No exclusionary list based on priors. No exclusionary list list based on current non-violent not serious crimes. There should be no exceptions. if you have a non-violent non serious crime currently as your third strike then you should automatically re sentenced. No exceptions.

    And your initiative should reflect at least 33% credits for all nonviolent non serious offenders including three Strikers if not 50% and the credit should be applied retroactively.

    • My friend, the arguments that you make are meritorious to be sure. However, wethepeople has opted to take one bite of the apple at a time. A proven strategy that has been successful in previous prison and sentencing reform initiatives. Unless we can raise the sort of funding we feel it would take to advance your ideas we are content to roll with what we feel stands a reasonable chance to be successful. We realize that there is much more that needs fixing with regard to certain criminal laws in California and we look forward to fighting the good fight in the future.
      You have to take several factors into account when trying to achieve prison and sentencing reform. There’s a reason why the legislature, courts, and other notable organizations have not pushed for any significant reforms. Although we find your observations meritorious, we also have to view things from a logical standpoint in seeking change in our justice system. To be sure, everybody isn’t happy with this particular initiative, but it is a step in the right direction. We thank you for your comments and hope that all the injustices you pointed out will be properly addressed in time.

  23. I only see comments on this site about 3rd strikers. What about the people who are 2nd strikers. It’s seems that nothing is geared toward them, they are the forgotten ones. My husband was sentenced as a 2nd striker for carjacking, no one harmed & yet he was sentenced to 33 yrs. He was been in there for 23 years & sentenced in his 20’s. Mostly enhancements. Didn’t qualify for SB 260, Didn’t qualify for SB 261, not because of she, but prior. I call it crap. Prop 57 didn’t help him. SB 620 won’t help eithe. So this is great, but what about making changes for 2nd strikers. Where is their light at the end of this tunnel ?

    • Mari, it’s commendable that someone is speaking up for 2nd strikers. To be sure, a 33 year sentence is harsh. Just so you’ll know, there are many people who speaks up for sentencing reform in general, however, we have taken a major step in that direction with the current initiative. We hope to get this on the ballot for 2018. If we are successful we plan on seeking future sentencing reforms. Right now we need support for The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety of 2018. We appreciate your comments and hope that our organization will be able to help you in the future. Thanks!

  24. I agree with Dan Littlefield..all these props that were passed did nothing with the overcrowding issues .. now this prop 57 which is a big joke and a slap in the face to the voters that thought prop 57 was going to give their incarcerated love ones some relief …it did nothing but cause a lot of confusion and heartache..Really!!! leave it up to CDCR to make the decision on who gets a chance at a board hearing ..Really!!! We the people truly need to be for the people ..the people who have love ones that are incarcerated to finally get some relief …The baby steps are over this stuff needs to stop…trash this new initiative which is so confusing like all the rest…Write an initiative that states plain English..if your strike was before 1994 it should not be a strike with no exclusions what so ever….now that’s a start let the people vote on that …Dan Littlefield I agree with everthing you said and I wonder why the we the people didn’t comment on your comment you know why because this system is a joke period …. please stop voting on these riducolous initiatives.. Stop donating money ..the only way your love ones will come home if an initiative is put in place like Dan Littlefield stated ..

    • Greg, we understand that not everyone is gonna be happy about this proposed voter initiative, notwithstanding the fact that it’s gonna provide relief for thousands of lifers. Like Mr. Littlefield you seem to take a subjective view as to what should be submitted before the voters. When viewed from a more objective standpoint a successful pre-94 campaign without any restraints may be a very difficult sale to California voter’s. I see you failed to notice that I personally answered Mr. Littlefield. For some reason the answer posted a couple comments down from Mr. Littlefield’s. We hope to work with people such as yourself and Mr. Littlefield in the future as we continue our crusade for justice.

  25. When you get sentenced for a second or third crime, they give you the mid term or third term sentence. Then they tack on enhancements. Which in my way of thinking should be considered double jeopardy. They have already done their time for previous crimes. If they can’t trial a person twice for the same crime, how can they sentence them twice for the same crime ?

    • Sharonn I agree with you regarding enhancements. However, our justice system overlook what appears to be double jeopardy in its zeal to keep our prisons full. Enhancements in theory is the legal systems way to deter a person from recommitting crimes. The initiative is slated for the November 6th 2018 ballot. Thanks for your comments.

  26. Someone that got 14 years for being the driver of the car his friends where in that robbed someone on the street. Took a deal for 14 years. Got 4 years for the robbery and Two 5 year enhancements for 2 strikes. Previously was in for something similar but that Time he was actually the one doing the crime.

  27. Im a little confused, my husband was stricken out for the 3rd time 14 years ago, he was given 25 years to life for a criminal threat (argument with a family memeber) plus a 5 year enhancements for his priors it brought his sentence to 35 years to life, his priors were manslauter in 1994 he served his time, then he was charged with attempted robbery that was his second strike but was tried with his criminal threat case that struck him out for the 3rd time. My question, is this even allowed in a court of law. Does my husband qualify under this act for be re sentence? Can he petition the courts now? Can he petition the courts to have his 2nd strike stricken since is was an attempted robbery? He’s wasting his life in there when he can be out here being a productive memeber of society. Please if anyone could shed some light. What direction to go to.

  28. Does this qualify an inmate sentenced under the 3 strikes law for penal code 422 criminal threats? When will we be hearing about this act like we did for prop 57? How certain are you guys that this will pass? Does Jerry Brown support this? I’ve been doing my part and sending this link to everyone I know and don’t know on social media, when I go visit my husband I make sure i let families know about this act. When are we going to hear noise about this act? 🙏🙏🙏🙏 i pray this passes!

    • Jessijay, yes this act will apply to those convicted of criminal threats. We feel confident that we will get this measure on the ballot. We are currently doing all that we can to get the word out and garner support. We appreciate all that you’re doing. There is some good things going on behind the scenes and we hope Jerry Brown will eventually endorse it. Contact us at our toll free number if you are interested in where we are. Thanks for your support!

      • When can we see it on the ballot? What adverticment is we the people doing besides Facebook? Is the news media getting involved? I believe this has to be plastered everywhere just like prop 57, I remember last year they were trying to amend California 3 strikes law, no advertisement was done like all the other props. Sadly the 3 strikes law was never amended because of lack of advertising. I will do all that I can in my power to make sure people know about this. If I have to gather signatures I will, I also want to be certain that we the people have all there ducks in line as well. I pray everyday that this act is passed. We need this but most importantly our love ones behind bars are counting on this act.

        • Jessijay, I strongly urge that you contact us at our toll free number. We will gladly update you on wethepeopleorg’s projected plans. I think you can be an asset in our quest to get this initiative on the ballot. Call us at your convenience.

  29. Are you currently collecting signatures? If so, where can we sign? I know plenty of people who would be willing to sign as they know many who’ve been affected by the unfair sentencing laws currently in place.

  30. I have contacted your office on 3 different occasions, I still haven’t heard back. Your answering service should have simple knowledge to simple questions being asked. All I want to know is where can I find this petition to be signed and to pass along to family and friends. Each day that passes is a day less of signatures on this petition. Please someone call me. I don’t care if it’s 4 am!!!

    • Jessica, I have brought your request to be contacted to wethepeopleorg and I suspect that you’ve been contacted by now. Hopefully, your answers have been provided. We appreciate your determination and patience. Its folks like you that is gonna make this initiative successful!!

    • Hey there, my names Peter. I too would like to vote. My dad who’s doing life asked that i find out where to vote and pass that info along to friends and family, so that he can have a chance of getting out. If you guys get any info on how many signatures you need and have received already, lets me know. From the short research I’ve done about this is that there was a rally in Fresno with only 11 people attending. Also theres a “Go Fund Me” page up from “We the People” with a goal of S10,000. I don’t mind donating but i’d hate to just toss money away if no ones fighting the cause. Thanks for reading guys. Have a great day.

      • Hello Peter!! We the people org. is currently negotiating with a signature gathering company. Our efforts are sincere and we fully intend on making this initiative work. Any donation will be helpful at this early stage in the process. For more info contact our office at our toll free number. Thanks for your support.

  31. I have a son who got a strike conviction for a residential burglary 2 years a go he was 20 in college and has never been in trouble before or after. He drive the car. . A $75 tv was stolen and he was only an accessory. No weapons no one home. Will this allow it to be a resentanced as regular felony not a strike. This has ruined his future and it was a stupid college prank not true criminal act.

  32. I want to help anyway I can , this has been such a horrible law. I voted for three strikes and had no idea non violent property crimes were included

  33. Has the signature gathering process started yet? If so how many signatures are needed & by when for this to make it on the ballot?

  34. My husband was given his third strike at age 23 and found guilty for assault w/ deadly weapon with gbi. His other strikes were when he was a juvenile they are also awd on one he recieved gbi and the other he never hurt the victim he was young and didnt know what he was getting into so he pleaded guilty because his deal was 9 months and a strike so he took it. He hasnt been in trouble since and till he turned 21 he was arrested for the first time as an adult and was found guilty. Also his first strike was when he was 16 and the other at 17. Will this help in any way?

  35. My brother was 23 years old ,convicted of 2nd degree armed robbery with a gun , and sentenced to 75 years to life as a third striker. No one was hurt in the robbery. Will this initiative help him?

    • Virgil, unfortunately using a firearm or other dangerous weapon during the commission of any felony is grounds for exclusion. We considered including cases were a weapon was used but no one was hurt, however, polls show that a vast amount of California voters would be against it. As for amending the initiative, the deadline has long past. Rest assured however, that wethepeopleorg will look for ways to help people such as your brother in the very near future. We have to take the one bite of the apple at a time in our campaign against mass incarceration and unjust sentencing practices.

  36. And if not, what are our chances of getting cases like his implamented into the intitiative? Because there’s a lot of third strikers that have cases where they used a gun to commit the crime but did not hurt anyone.

  37. Does this help for someone who got enhancements on a new charge for his prior strikes. Strikes were for robbery no weapons were used.
    I really hope so because it makes no sense to punish someone more for a crime they did the time for already

  38. My husband is a three strike inmate. He got his first two strikes as a juvenile for assault with a deadly weapon. A few years latter he got his third strike. His charge in that was felon in possession of a weapon. He has been in prison almost 20 years, and from talking to the parole commissioner last year it does not sound like he will be granted his parole in a few years. When prop 57 came out we thought he would be eligible. We took it to the state supreme court and were denied still. Under this act would he qualify for release?

    • From the information you’ve provided he would qualify under The People’s Fair Sentencing and Public Safety Act. Keep in mind that we seek volunteers to help make this Act law.

    • Jazmine, this Act removes violations of P.C. 211 from the list of violent felonies 1) if no firearm or other dangerous weapon was used and 2) if no one was seriously injured during the commission of the robbery.

  39. I am slightly confused, it is alot to read and husband was charged many years ago with attempted armed robbery, a the gun went off so they charged him also will attempted murder. He never had any priors, never been in trouble. Most of the time given was for inhansments. He has done 18 years so far. Could this safety act 2018 help him. He fell under the youth offender law when that passed. Could this help?

    • Raquel, Is your husband a third striker whose current conviction is listed as nonviolent? Is so there shouldn’t be anything preventing him from qualifying under this act. To give you a more definitive answer I need to know all the circumstances surrounding his case.

  40. Reading the comments I see that this could change a robbery to non violent. So would a person then be able to qualify under prop 57 as non violent?

    • Yes Lisa, because the change in law would be retroactive so if he is resentenced as a second striker he qualifies for prop 57. He will also receive greater credit earnings.

  41. This is a serious question
    How do you expect people to get behind you when no one answers the phone. People won’t donate if they can’t at least hear a voice. I’m praying you have an alternate plan for signature gathering. Can you at least respond and let me know where you are on the signature gathering? I talked to Mike Romano with Stanford law three strikes project and asked if they were supporting the initiative. His response is that they don’t think you’ll get the signatures. Please respond.

  42. I believe the deadline for signatures for the November ballot has passed. I was collecting signatures for an indicative that would extend the right to vote to those on parole and in prison. Unfortunately we did not have the high number of signatures to get this on the ballot. Sadly, unless there are funds to pay signature collectors, it is very hard for any citizen iniative to get on the California ballot.

    • Jane yes the deadline for tat particular initiative has passed but our deadline for the WTPO 3 strikes initiative deadline is July 16th… and the Attorney Generals hard deadline for 2018 is june 28th… so we do still have time. Thank you for commenting.

    • Sorry to inform you that we won’t make the 2018 ballot. However, we are already making preparations for the 2020 ballot. With hard work and dedication we will get our loved ones home. Stay tuned and keep the faith my friend!!!

  43. I know that a lot of people here have stories to tell regarding unfair sentencing but I really need to bring my brother’s story to light! My brother, Richard Wyatt, got into trouble back in the 90s and was given two strikes for the same offense! He served all of his time and was released. In 1998, he was stopped during a traffic stop and was charged with possession of a weapon(that he was trying to get rid of cuz he didn’t want to get in any trouble!). He was given a 3rd Strike for this offense. While in county jail and waiting for his sentencing, he had a cellmate that had hidden some paraphernalia in the cell and that he didn’t get along with. My brother had no knowledge of these items. Upon leaving county to go to his new designation, this cellmate told the guards about these items and told them that they were my brother’s! To my brother’s surprise, guards stormed into his cell and recovered a shard of metal and a syringe hidden under the sink! My brother was consequently given a strike for each item and therefore received a sentence of a total of 78 years to life for all non-violent, non-serious charges! We have been trying to get him out ever since! If anyone has any advice or words of wisdom, please do share!

  44. Twizard-. If the signature deadline isn’t until July 16th, how are you sure that we won’t make the deadline?

    • Dear Terry, the Attorney general office declared that May 11, was the deadline for gathering signatures on all ballot initiatives irrespective of the allotted time due to an extraordinary workload. Whether that is legal remains a mystery. Thus, we are starting early with our preparations for the 2020 ballot. To learn more call our toll free number.


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